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Probable flickr washing see Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Tankxf8.jpg, where the user indicates that an image was found "on the internet". Megapixie (talk) 03:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC) See also the below, which have the same problem and should be considered as part of this request.Reply[reply]

Megapixie (talk) 03:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete, obvious, images from the Flickraccount http://flickr.com/photos/16985535@N05/ are not free, some of them are containing watermarks. Flickrwashing suspected, Delete. --Martin H. (talk) 03:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep. The images are under creative commons licence on flicker. I am not familiar with "flicker washing" is there any policy regarding such term? One last pharaoh (talk) BTW would commons do us a favor and make this four tildes button available like in wikipedia en?

If these picture are to be deleted, then maybe all of the sites that used one of them be sued for copyright violation. No there is no signature here. tell wikicomons moderators to make it easier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by One last pharaoh (talk • contribs)

The signature is the 10th button from left above the edit window. The buttons are the same as in the english wikipedia in the standard settings. Please sign your post with ~~~~. --Martin H. (talk) 03:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My best guess would be that the flickr account in question is yours Pharaoh the great vs "One last pharaoh". 'Flickr washing' is best described as the practice of uploading copyright images to flickr under cc licenses, and then uploading the wikipedia - for the purpose of falsely making images free. Megapixie (talk) 02:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The condition of uploading images to wikimedia is that they are not violating any copyright held by their source. I guess that that is true in our case here. Is there a specific guideline of the wikimedia foundation, and specifically the wikimedia commons project that regards the so called flicker-washing? --One last pharaoh (talk) 13:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

BTW, the only image that was watermarked by another site has been deleted, so we now can ignore the some of them are containing watermarks statement. --One last pharaoh (talk) 13:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Look. I'm not entirely stupid. Take this image: File:Fahd-240-30.gif uploaded to commons the same day all of the images were uploaded to the flickr. Not entirely outside the realm of probability I grant you - but then look at the image link you've provided: http://flickr.com/photos/16985535@N05/3228831768/?edited=1 ... hmmm edited=1 I wonder who would have a url like that... why the flickr uploader would after he just edited some details of the file. Megapixie (talk) 14:00, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am not saying that any one is stupid here. why the flickr uploader would after he just edited some details of the file I did not understand that. Any way, if there is any wikimedia commons guideline violated by these images, please mention it's link for me here. If there is no wikimedia commons guideline violated by these images, or by the process of uploading them, then the is no thing wrong. --One last pharaoh (talk) 15:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

BTW, i have just noticed what you wrote in the top of this page, and i did not assume that the image you mentioned was found in the internet, it was from a forum, and the link to such forum was nominated as the image's source. The argument there shows that. You might need to think again ,if you think that assuming that i am fooling wikimedia when you claim that false claim up there, and tell me that you are not stupid, is in your side. --One last pharaoh (talk) 15:44, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Keep These pictures add so much to the article. And if there is something wrong with the license we could take the permission of the person who uploaded them. I am sure nobody would mind having their photos on Wikipedia. A elalaily (talk) 19:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete we dont care if nobody would mind, Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle, Images on Commons must be ok for every possible use, commercial, educational, advertising like join the army and anti-advertising for not joining any army. Wikipedia only permission are not accepted. One last pharao asked: Is any guideline violated? Yes, it is. Commons:Licensing: Only the holder of copyrights can publish an image under a free license, the Flickr user is not the holder of copyrights. Commons:Flickr images/Guide describes, in which way Flickr is a doubtful source: Many Flickrusers are not aware of copyright. In this case the Commons and Flickr user are the same - a very shameful behaviour. --Martin H. (talk) 20:16, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Now that i am sure that these images cannot be uploaded to the commons, i agree with deleting them

BTW, there was no mention of anything shameful in the page. What have I done was trying to find a way to upload images that I see them used by different website, however the only real license holder –if any- for such pictures would be the AOI, and it’s associated facilities.

Since you people seam to know well about guidelines, would you help me finding out the guideline regarding uploading small-resolution copies of non free licensed images so that the copyright is not violated? I some times see images like that, but i do not know how to do it. --One last pharaoh (talk) 22:06, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank your help to clearify this. Pharaoh, im very sorry, but no matter where the image comes from it will stay nonfree and no matter which size the image is it will stay nonfree. Uploading thumbnail versions for educational use only is possible at the english Wikipedia for a small number of images under the terms of fair use, it is not possible at Commons and most other Wikipedia projects. --Martin H. (talk) 03:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleted. Martin H. (talk) 03:39, 5 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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